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Getting to know Elke Thamm

“You’re the owner of your destiny.”

Elke Thamm has been heading Corporate Personnel Development at Bühler since September 2020. She has a wealth of experience working for various international organizations and brings this expertise to her role. Elke joined Bühler during the COVID-19 pandemic, a unique time to change jobs and onboard in a new place. Despite facing many challenges, her team managed to implement different programs to support the leaders and employees in this unprecedented time. 

In this interview, Elke talks about the ins and outs of personal development now and in the future.

    

Elke, you have been the Head of Corporate Development at Bühler for over a year now. What were your first impressions when you assumed the job?

I thought the welcome was overwhelmingly nice. The people were amazing and went out of their way to support me and teach me about the organization and its history. I also think I had a fantastically structured onboarding. I feel very lucky because when I joined in September, most of the world was in a lockdown and we, at Bühler, weren’t. And while I couldn’t, unfortunately, travel to meet a lot of colleagues, at least in Uzwil I had the opportunity to meet colleagues in person. And that makes a big difference. Looking back, I feel very privileged that I had that opportunity. 

I was also very impressed with the fantastic atmosphere we have and how proud people are to be part of Bühler. That is a fantastic boost when you are new. I was and still am impressed by the great offices we have. And the wonderful coffee that is served in the CUBIC. 

 

Elke Thamm

Elke was born in Linz, Austria during the year when the US and China established full diplomatic relations. She studied international business in Vienna and Paris to a Master’s degree, holds a CEMS MIM from University of St. Gallen and is a CIPD Fellow. Elke started her career at Ferguson PLC and later worked at gategroup. Elke spent 10 years living in Brighton and Windsor in the UK before moving to Switzerland 5 years ago. Elke is a keen horse rider and loves to spend time with her horse named ‘Quality Affairs’. She also likes to swim in the summer and to snowboard in the winter and has recently taken up cross-country skiing. Elke strongly believes in personal development and is currently training as a mental health & wellbeing coach.  

 

What are the best and most challenging aspects of your role?

When I started the most exciting aspect was learning about the company, this was also challenging because I couldn’t travel and meet people and get to know them as quickly as I wanted. I also wanted to make an impact as quickly as possible to be able to help leaders and employees through these unique times. It was challenging to look at how we best develop, engage, and grow people in the new normal and support our leaders to keep up morale and keep people safe when I was still new and had to first learn who is who, learn about the culture and simply to find my way around systems, processes, tools and structures.

 

Looking back over the past year, what is the most rewarding is to see what we’ve achieved as an HRD (Human Resources Development) team together with the entire HR community. We stayed agile and resilient, but we kept going. We didn’t stop our group leadership programs but adjusted how we deliver them. We took our two flagship high potential programs, the Excelerator and the Master’s in Bühler Management, virtual and launched a new global leadership series to support our people leaders in all regions to exchange, collaborate and build on their toolkit to lead in the new normal. It makes me very proud to see what we all delivered and how the team pulled together to achieve this common goal.

 

What has been the biggest project so far, one that you’ll remember forever? 

If you look at our people strategy – which is anchored in our business strategy – what we do in HRD in terms of enabling leaders to be the best leaders, in terms of helping employees to be their best selves at work and be engaged. I couldn’t pick one because I think it’s all of them coming together.

The most fantastic thing for me at Bühler is not only the HR support but also seeing leaders and managers investing time to develop their people, which makes the difference. Having a solid strategy and some great programs to offer is important and also the easy part. What really matters for impact is the conversations that happen behind them. It’s the genuine willingness, but also time investment of leadership and managers to enable their people to grow and their concern for their wellbeing. To me, that’s probably the most rewarding thing to see; they demonstrate that at Bühler people development is truly in the DNA of the company and that is what I will remember forever because I am reminded of it every day. 

The most fantastic thing for me at Bühler is not only the HR support but also seeing leaders and managers investing time to develop their people, which makes the difference.

Elke Thamm,
Head of Corporate Personnel Development at Bühler

 

What are your goals in the job for the next year, and for the next 5 years?

We’ve launched our lifelong learning commitment and that is a wonderful thing and an aspiration to have. And now it’s also really the question of how we implement this and make this happen across the organization. 

And if we talk about talent management and leadership development, we made improvements there, we advanced the process. The goal now is to embed that in the organization. There is not one quick fix program. But I guess if you evolve a culture together, that’s a process that probably will take us at least the next five years.

Another key part and next year’s priority will be how we retain our position as an employer of choice, as an attractive organization. What do we need to do in our different markets to ensure we retain the diverse talent and continue to grow and develop them?

 

You mentioned that a key element of the HRD25 strategy is to make sure that employees are at their best self. How do you do that? 

On an individual level, it all starts with the mindset and with self-awareness. In the words of Henry Ford ‘whether you think you can or you think you can’t you’re right’. To support people in this process we offer ‘Beyond Bias’ workshops; they are facilitated by Bühler colleagues, and everyone can sign up; they play a key part in terms of creating that awareness that we all have biases, how we can work with them to create a fun, inclusive work environment for all of us. I think that’s a key first step in learning who you are and how to be your best self. 

We also support our leaders in all stages of the employee lifecycle to help them have effective conversations with their team. How do I have a career conversation? How do I have performance conversations? How do I give and receive feedback? How do I create a high-performance team? That’s from the leader, the people manager’s part. 

And from an organizational perspective, we have defined our compass on how we want to interact with each other, our TOP Values. It is on all of us to foster a culture of Trust, Ownership and Passion and create the organization that we want to work for. In this context I would like to mention our employee driven Generation B movement. What I really appreciate is that it creates a culture of engagement and initiative. What this really says is if you want to have the organization you want to work for, then it is up to you to bring in new initiatives and help shape this organization.

 

 

Why is personnel development important?

There is a famous saying when a CEO and a CFO of an organization talk to each other. The CFO says to the CEO: “Imagine we develop and train all those people and then they leave.” And the CEO says: “Imagine what happens if we don’t and they stay.” It’s important for us as an organization, because we want to ensure that we have colleagues and employees who are effective and efficient in their roles.  

 

 

The World Economic Forum says that a lot of jobs and skills that are relevant in business today will most likely be replaced by new skills in five to ten years. That’s why from a career development perspective, it’s about helping people to understand that and helping them to see how they learn. It’s also important for us as individuals to grow and develop. It’s a critical part for us to ensure that we retain the great talents that we have in our company.

From the point of view of supervisors and managers, what is their role for career development, for personal development, to make sure the people perform at their best?

They play a very critical role. Each one of us is in charge of our own career, and if we want to, we control our own destiny. The organization is the framework of opportunities and HR supports in providing trainings and tools to develop but managers play a very critical role because their role is to help translate all these inputs for the team and the individual employee, they translate the strategy and values into tasks and a working culture and thus help individuals navigate the organization and their career. They are the ‘go to person’ for the individual employee and really are the gateway to helping them grow and develop. 

 

You said that we can control our own destiny. In that sense, what roles do employees play in their career development and in their own development?

Reflecting and thinking about what success and what a career look like is different for everyone. It’s important to understand that. I think it’s great that it’s different for everyone, because that’s what makes it fun, what makes us unique and what makes us have different skills and teams. I think the first one is kind of thinking about ‘what does it mean for me’?

We should all ask ourselves: “Do I have the aspiration, the ability, the skills and then how do I develop? How do I develop them?” We have a lot of training courses and many tools that can help answer these questions.

In terms of growth mindset, it’s important to take different opportunities and to be open with yourself, because there are many ways to get there. It’s your plan. And if you adjust your plan, that’s okay, because it’s your plan. 

It’s important not to forget that you’re the owner of your destiny, it’s important not to wait for it to happen, but to make it happen and to talk to people, understanding more about the organization and taking initiative. 

It’s important not to forget that you’re the owner of your destiny, it’s important not to wait for it to happen, but to make it happen and to talk to people, understanding more about the organization and taking initiative.

Elke Thamm,
HEAD OF CORPORATE PERSONNEL DEVELOPMENT AT BÜHLER

 

What advice would you give someone who’s been in a company, for example, for 30 years, they’ve done all the learnings, all the trainings, and they just feel that there’s nowhere to grow. How would you motivate this person to develop? 

First of all, I would like to say ‘Thank you’ – thank you for your contribution to the organization to date.

Secondly, I would say it all comes back to the question ‘do you know what you want to do next and how can we at Bühler support?’ As a global player, it is important for us to harness the diversity of our workforce and as such enabling employees of all generations to thrive and develop is a critical success factor to innovate for a better world. We really want to make sure that we engage all generations across the group and ensure that no matter where you are in your career, we can best support you. In essence for the individual, it comes back to the question ‘what would I like to do?’. It’s knowing what it is that you want and then seeing how you can achieve it. 

We are committed to help employees identify how we can support in terms of employee agility, all our employees at every stage in their career. I would say that as you progress in your career this becomes even more personal and over time also transitions to questions such as ‘how can I give back’, ‘how can I transfer my knowledge, how can I educate younger generations and mentor them’ while developing myself. As much as we need new and younger generations of talent, we equally need our long serving colleagues and experts who have made and continue to make their contributions – we rely on all our diverse employees working effectively together to ensure we continue to play to win. 

 

What effect did the pandemic have on personal development overall in the company? 

I think it has accelerated virtual learning, particularly also with the increase in mobile working practices. In this lies great opportunity, for example by delivering trainings to many people globally at the same time which exponentially increases opportunity for cross-border exchange. It also allowed for employees to access recorded trainings on demand at a time most convenient for them. What we have also learned is that we cannot just take face to face content and put it online, it is a whole different playground in terms of designing and delivering engaging trainings in a virtual / hybrid format. 

At the same time, we have also learned that transitioning fully to virtual is not the solution either. Human connection, networking and collaboration cannot be replaced by technology and certain training elements will continue to need to happen face-to-face for it to be effective.

We are continuously learning what works and what doesn’t work, we are experimenting together, learning, failing fast. It is important to not just bounce back to what we did before, then I would say this was a wasted 18 months. It is about taking the learnings and looking at how we can deliver even more effective development opportunities for our employees in the future and that is what we are doing together with our Local Learning Centers, Business Academies and the global learning community. 

 

You’ve mentioned that you worked in the United Kingdom before. What are the differences in the approach to personal development? 

I’ve always worked for international organizations. We are also an international organization, and it’s fantastic to see and experience how people with different cultural backgrounds learn together and feed off each other. I think the one area that shouldn’t be forgotten is the dimension of cultural diversity and how enriching it is. At the same time, it can also be a source of misunderstandings – that’s important to know. I think the moment people come together with a common goal and vision and the drive to make a difference, the challenges are similar, and the solutions might look very different depending on where you are. 

But for me, work and culture has always been international. And one of the things that really stands out for me at Bühler is the drive and commitment to making a difference in the world and building a better future; it’s inspiring, makes you really think and is a great source of energy for me. And then of course there is Swiss German timing. That is a different league to UK time.

 

What makes a great leader?

That is definitely not a simple question to answer. Each year thousands of leadership books are written on this subject alone. At the same time, I would say that there are behavior patterns and attitudes that are foundational for an individual to develop into a leader. It all starts with the mindset, the ability for self-reflection and the humility to know that you don’t know it all, but you are willing to learn it all. For me, I think what makes a great leader is humble and has the humanity to learn and continue to learn and be able to admit mistakes. I think a great leader is also someone who really listens and who listens with the intent to understand. It’s someone who has a high level of curiosity and who dares to care about their people. Someone who can give feedback and most importantly be able to take feedback and make changes in behavior based on it. What makes a great leader at Bühler is defined in our values and the associated behaviors.  In summary I would say it’s someone who lives and embodies our TOP values.

 

Are there any international trends in personal development that you can share with us? 

The role of the manager will become even more important in terms of engaging and motivating dispersed, hybrid teams. It is critical to support managers in this task while also ensuring they look after their personal wellbeing and don’t burn out in the process. 

In the fast-paced world, it will be important to reskill quickly; this means organizations need to be ready to continuously train their employees to stay relevant and employees need to remain open to regularly re-skill. 

I also see a trend for learning and development to be more and more personalized and on demand. This trend has been accelerated by the pandemic and I believe it is here to stay. Employees want to access learning nuggets at their own time and pace.  

Finally, there is a clear trend that people are looking more and more for purpose in their work-life and want to work for an organization whose purpose aligns with their personal values. It will therefore become increasingly important for companies to define and be able to articulate their wider contribution to society and the planet.  

I think we are fantastically positioned at Bühler with our clearly defined purpose and the clarity about the contribution we want to make to by driving the triple bottom line of humanity, sustainability, and economy.

Mosaic core team

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